tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post7424514061175639029..comments2024-03-26T00:25:34.026-04:00Comments on Not Running a Hospital: Three wrongs don't make a right, even for DeansPaul Levyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17065446378970179507noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-38431162625263757142014-03-09T18:57:35.613-04:002014-03-09T18:57:35.613-04:00More from Facebook:
Jerry Ackerman Disclosure of ...More from Facebook:<br /><br />Jerry Ackerman Disclosure of conflict is just an excuse. It doesn't address the problem.<br /><br />Johann Odermann Disclosure of conflicts if interest (or potential) is necessary to ensure that potential conflicts do not become realized without knowledge. Disclosure of information isn't an excuse - it is a tool and resource to enable holding people accountable for their actions and responsibilities.<br /><br />Roy M Poses Disclosure is necessary but not sufficient to address the problem. But failure to disclose is deceptive.<br /><br />Jerry Ackerman Thank you, Roy, for saying it better.From Facebooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-73703398999472899202014-03-09T18:55:24.419-04:002014-03-09T18:55:24.419-04:00The UI response is "Well they do it too!"...The UI response is "Well they do it too!"<br /><br />Weak. Keep after them......Mitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-83328554187293051552014-03-09T18:54:46.494-04:002014-03-09T18:54:46.494-04:00You are exactly right. I'm wondering if there...You are exactly right. I'm wondering if there is a Board of Ethics for the AAMC?<br /><br />Isn't this the big issue that emerges -- where does the AAMC stand? Do they address the issue? Has it come up? I would not be at all surprised at consistent evasion.Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-82479691106713805482014-03-09T13:30:25.318-04:002014-03-09T13:30:25.318-04:00Paul's right. There is a conflict of interest ...Paul's right. There is a conflict of interest no matter what. Its about money guys. How many times have we seen subtle influences? If they want to do this stuff, get out of academic medicine and go sit on the boards. Then you'll see them making contacts with their former research friends at the school. <br /><br />Sorry, its a conflict of interest. That's why us regular slogs who have one job get it put into our contracts we can't work another without permission and working for the "competition" is a no no. <br /><br />Good job Paul - seen you quoted elsewhere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-38331154920169039452014-03-09T13:23:52.207-04:002014-03-09T13:23:52.207-04:00Dear Paul,
One clarification…The Executive Dean o...Dear Paul,<br /><br />One clarification…The Executive Dean of UNC (Marschall S. Runge, M.D., Ph.D) is on the Board of Directors of Eli Lilly.<br />Here is the link from Eli Liliy:<br />https://investor.lilly.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=787586<br /><br />So this takes the count to 4 and there are probably several more…….I know that the ex-Dean of Harvard Medical School had been on the Board of Directos of a Pharma company for 5 of his 10 year term because the rules allowed him to do so. This was reported in NY times.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32053362.post-69250107877205437852014-03-09T09:27:33.144-04:002014-03-09T09:27:33.144-04:00A Facebook discussion:
Johann Odermann “If medica...A Facebook discussion:<br /><br />Johann Odermann “If medical faculty know they’re basically reporting to Bristol Myers Squibb, does that make them change what they do? Be more afraid to criticize certain priorities?” said Roy Poses, president of the non-profit Foundation for Integrity and Responsibility. “There’s a lot of evidence to [cause] concern [that it does] alter their behavior.”<br /><br />That's a bit of a stretch.<br /><br />Naomi Kaufman Price Oh, these guys pale next to Duiz (spelling?) the dude who just left Duke for the IOM. He didn't even quit his board seats right away, only after a few folks started to raise questions. And who knows whether he still has bundles of Medtronic stock. Ditto Cassels. So so so much money. Which then results in trickle-down cynicism: faculty taking bucks for "research" that really isn't; "expert" talks or "advice" sponsored by pharma or device companies; kickbacks for using certain products (see Infuse by Medtronic) and no doubt the selection of knee/hip implants. Cesspool.<br />11 hours ago · Like<br /><br />Johann Odermann Full disclosure should be a requirement. Where abuse exists it should be called out and the culprits held responsible. Assuming that someone is crooked or compromises patient care because they sit on a board or advise a company is as silly as assuming someone is straight or a good informed practitioner because they have no ties to any corporations.<br /><br />Paul Levy I'm not assuming they are crooked. That's not the issue: It's whether it is possible to exercise a dual duty of care or loyalty.<br /><br />Beverly Heywood Rogers Yes, it's far subtler than crookedness. It gets the person to feel more positively toward the company and promotes a subliminal desire for reciprocation toward them, which benefits them when buying decisions are made. Why do you think advertising is taking over the world?From Facebooknoreply@blogger.com